It’s this effort to understand that’s missing when some people (jerks!) start finding moral parity between violence unleashed by Dalits and that unleashed routinely and often by a majoritarian and openly militant political party that shared power in the State and Central governments. Why do they forget — or, do they wish to hide — the fact that the right lens for viewing the current violence in Maharashtra is the long history of atrocities against Dalits? Is it so easy to forget — or hide — Keezhavenmani, Manjolai (and many others in Dravidian Land), Gohana, Kherlanji, Kadkol, Pipariy
Since this jerk has criticised the recent violence in Maharashtra in these very terms, let me address Abi’s argument.
First, the insinuation: We want to hide or forget something. Ah! Well, Abi just for the record, none of these offenders were related to me so by all means expose them. One of the ”lens” Abi offers Keezavenmani actually happened in 1967. Nice justification for burning trains in 2006! Oh, Abi is not justifying them, he deplored the violence. lest we forget-he is merely trying to understand it. Abi also forgets that while this blog has stoutly opposed reservations for OBCs and continues to do that, it has never opposed reservations for Dalits. Many of the worst atrocities were/are committed by the very castes whom the current reservation system will further empower. For example Gohana and Kherlanji. The worst atrocities on Dalits in both UP and Bihar is perpetrated by OBC castes and that is one of the reasons why someone like Mayawati, who can change electoral partners as easily as people change clothes refuses to sup with Mulayam Singh. Even in Bihar, where upper caste armies like Ranvir Sena continue to kill Dalits, they have a new ally in the post-Mandal Bihar politics-the middle castes.
As Reality Check points out, we are forgetting the real victims.
Now the justification:
Dalit anger in the post Kherlanji environment was somewhat understandable. The government of Maharashtra’s handling of the situation was inept at best and criminal at worst. Unfortunately, since the governments of these days, listen only to violent protests, Dalits showing their anger on the street was a natural corollary. But since then the Maharashtra government has made amends, arrested the Sarpanch and handed the case to C.B.I for further investigations. This violence was post-statue desecration in Kanpur and that is why it was ridiculous and similar to violent reaction by Shiv Sena.
And it was hardly spontaneous:
Though the Kanpur incident is being blamed for the violent protests, there is more to it: factions of the Republican Party of India (RPI) are out to exploit Dalit sentiments, aware that protests could help settle political scores within the state. It explains why Maharashtra’s Dalits are being told to hit the streets over an incident that did not even occur in the state. In fact, there have been no protests outside Maharashtra over Khairlanji.The protests were initially confined to Bhandara (Khairlanji is in this district) and Nagpur in Vidarbha and actually took place more than a month after the September 29 killings. With some Left organizations and NGOs attempting to hijack the Khairlanji incident — they circulated handbills and pamphlets in Nagpur’s Dalit strongholds, passing around gory pictures of the killings— Dalit groups felt threatened and began rolling out plans to keep their turf intact.(emphasis mine)
And who else offers the kind of justifications offered by Abi;
a. Terrorists in Kashmir who continue to kill and maim innocents and indulge in ethnic cleansing because they have grievances against the Indian state.
b. Serial bombers of Delhi and Mumbai who are being motivated by Gujarat riots.
c. LTTE in Sri Lanka which continues to harp on past injustices to Sri Lankan Tamils to carry on a vicious campaign of violence. ( And on CNN, Vaiko continues to defend them)
d. And perhaps, most significantly, the Muslims who were protesting against the Danish cartoons because of American close relationship with Israel and other imagined and real grievances against the Western world!
Er. Before everyone jumps on me, I am not equating the violence in Maharashtra to what these fine gentlemen do elsewhere, I am merely pointing out that every act of violence is justifiable or ( understandable if you must!)
Right?
Update- And hey, the past wrongdoings was the justification offered by Hinduvata folks who demolished Babri Masjid. Keep looking for justifications, everyone offers one!
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If memory serves right, Abi gave the example of Vaiko in the discussion related to POTA. I think Abi is a supporter of LTTE or at least a sympathiser as many folks from Dravidland are.
Lack of an absolute standards, moral fuzziness and a complete disregard for facts and data are the bane of our country. The problems are compounded by the fact that each subgroup believes that they are being jacked.
Abi epitomizes the morally decrepit intellectual wannabe. There is not a single absolute stand he takes.
Good or bad?
Economic growth: Abi repeatedly states on Other India that he will take social justice over economic growth.
Violence: Abi condones violence by certain parties.
Reservation: 99% of his posts supporting OBC reservations were actually related to Dalits. To this day, he refuses to accept the difference between the two.
Democracy: Nah, Abi would take Stalin’s communist rule.
Nationalism: I guess it is common concensus that it is not only ok to support anti-national elements but it is perfectly alright to demand secession and engage in activities against the sovereign state.
The list goes on.
You see, Abi has an absolute moral authority. He wrote about Dalits, so whatever he says must be correct. No data or evidence is required.
Make me a DP contributor so that I can link to this post, ofcourse I will be be imaginative and will be kicked out ,but the fun that will ensure will justify it
This is what we term “Unavoidable Noise”!
-sleepless in S* apologies India
Well, most self-proclaimed public intellectuals nestle comfortably in perfect ambiences for a procrastinated and extensive cognitive marching equipped with jaded and reluctant limbs and fingers just to gather some movement to critique.
I wonder, what proportion of them really do care about and punish their systems to participate in human movements (fight for justice! Unfortunately, most humans are misguided, are used to quantify the magnitude of unrest and then left unattended emotionally) and this would further be instigated by fervent debates like “Blue sky projects” on “US vs THEM”, “RIGHT vs LEFT”, “EGALIRATARIAN vs HIERARCHIAL” etc, which lead to ill-formed conclusions – more or less perfectly formed a semblance: food for thought.
I think, there’s one more parallel column is existing in this space…I rest!
Confused,
I agree – why is there a need to introspect the “real reasons” for certain types of violence, but certain others need to be condemned strongly? Nothing can justify destruction of public and private property – I mentioned this on my blog too…
As an aside, Jyothsnay – if you take out the prepositions and the nouns / pronouns from your comment – the average length of a word is 7.5
>> 99% of his posts supporting OBC reservations >>
I want to write a post on this later. After reading pretty much everything I can get my hands on about the social justice system in India, here is my conclusion.
There is no such thing as “supporting OBC reservations”. Stay with me for a second.
You can only support the current “OBC caste list”. If your community/caste happens to be in the list – it is golden, if not – it sucks. To drive this point home further, remove Ezhavas from the list – Kerala will erupt with anti-quota demonstrations, remove forward castes like Gounders and Mudaliars from the list – the dravidian movement is finished, remove Yadavs/Kurmis and Bihars votebanks vanish.
Now imagine what will happen if you collect data and the castes mentioned above are found to be not only above average but even the most elite castes in their respective geographic areas. A political shakedown will happen, like one we have never seen. Will people whose interests are already vested in the current system allow something like this ? Will political parties who survive on narrowing the public interest allow the interests to widen ? This is like suicide to those who count on vote banks. Is it any wonder then that data and truth on which this policy should revolve around is now sought to be hidden ?
Is Abi from TN ? In that case, you need to go that extra yard. If, as the NSSO 10th round says, 96% of a state is in need of social justice – then there needs to be data to prove that the remaining 4% have such a stranglehold on means of production and education. Even a casual observer will tell you that it is not the case in TN. The remaining 4% are finished in almost all spheres, even culturally. Their main cultural events in December are watched by a miniscule number and blacked out of the main TV and Radio channel.
Reality Check
Totally agree with you,
Reservation is more a political issue, than a ideological, to resolve will require political maneuvering
Biju
dnot get too ruffled by those lifestylish accessories that embellish the content..just focus ur energies on “Public intellectuals” and fervent debates on either side of the fence….while ignoring an essential factor – how to reduce the population of misguided missiles…thank you-J
Reality Check
i do agree with you. Reservations have become more play-time a tool for political parties to play around with, an advantage that’s exploited by a chosen few, rather than a vital driving ingredient in uplifting socially and economically deprived people…..
As somebody who more often sups with the “other guys” it is a little distressing
to have you proved right ( your previous post on this that I inferred too much into).
Non-expression of views would have been better for “my guys” than this instruction manual on which lens we are and which we are not to use in viewing these events.
But at least my eminent blogger is toeing a more reasonable line
Regards,
Jai
Thanks everyone for their comments.
Barb,
I wont go far as to call Abi a defender of LTTE or anything, I reserve my comments for this specific incident.
Jyo,
Public intellectualism, the way it is used in India is pretty strange, no?
Biju,
Yup, the key factor is not anger: it is violence.
RC,
Just adding to your point. The recent attemts to introduce a creamy layer quota in SC/ST or intruduce sublayers has already met with much resistance. Interesting! You take out one caste and the whole edifice will come crashing down.
Jai,
Aye. Glad we agree.
Yeah, I liked the eminent bloggers’s post. That was sensible.
Somehow I have never got around to accept that people like us – who never had anything to do with Dalit oppression – are being discriminated against, in the name of social justice.
Shivam, Dilip and Abi seem to belong to the gang of social activists, whose brand of social justice involves revenge and retributions
If such logic is acceptable, then we should probably round up all Spaniards and Portuguese and kill them all for what they did in Latin America.
Mind you that when I am against Islamic terrorism, its not because of the past, its because even today we are facing the brunt. They even get away with murder (eg. Salman and Afzal cases).
Abi also forgets that while this blog has stoutly opposed reservations for OBCs and continues to do that, it has never opposed reservations for Dalits.
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Confused,
Why, please?
>> Interesting! You take out one caste and the whole edifice will come crashing down >>
It you introduce data into the picture the whole edifice will come crashing down. It just cannot stand up to rigor and logic.