Against Illegal Immigration

Note-This piece has been inspired by Bongpondit’s excellent piece on illegal immigration. It has been written after drinking 2 beers and I propose to drink one more after finishing it. Needless to say, it is long, ponderous, boring and quite heartless. In other words it is quintessentially me.

Illegal immigration is right now the hottest topic in US of A. The Bush administration has proposed changes which will basically do three things a) allow illegal aliens to work towards becoming legal without have to go back to their home countries b) Tighten border controls which will hopefully make it harder for illegal immigrants to cross over.c) Make it a felony to be in United States without papers

Even this has resulted in huge protests, rallies have been taken, students have left classes and taken to the streets and believe it or not the Hispanic diaspora has actually taken it as a personal affront. We are not criminals-goes out the cry. Is that really so?

Excuse me. If someone breaks into your house deliberately and steals your money/food because he is needy, what will an average person do? Call the cops, right? How is it different from a person illegally crossing the borders of a country? Why is his need for a better life more persuasive than the average Joe breaking into someone’s apartment because he needs food? Ok, I agree it is practically impossible to ship back the 12 million or so illegals but the least you would expect from them is a little humility, an acknowledgement that they committed a crime, and a request for amnesty. Instead what you have are demonstrators actually draping the Mexican flag and protesting on the streets of California. That by itself makes sure that whatever little sympathy I had for them evaporates.

Actually, I have no sympathies for them. No country is obliged to hold the hands of the world’s poor and feed them just because it is rich. There are no free lunches in this world. Yes, every individual is entitled to seek a better life but only within the realms of the law. Admittedly, law is an ass sometimes most of the times and we all are obliged to break it. However, law being an ass does not make crossing borders a fait accompli. Crossing borders is a delibrate well thought plan, you do not it in a one day. Aurite, those 12 million are probably enjoying a better life in USA right now than they would in their home countries. So? If that makes them so desirable, why not have open borders and get the rest of them here too! Or is American dream restricted to those who know how to break the law?

A classic argument in favor of illegal immigration is that it makes American companies more competitive by allowing them hire cheap labor. Quite aside from the moral ambiguity of such a proposition, why not abolish other laws which make American businesses uncompetitive. For example, minimum wages, safety laws.It also keeps a lot of low skilled Americans out of the job market, as often illegals are paid even less than minimum wages under work conditions which are decidedly hostile and unsafe. I am not even sure, most of the companies which hire illegals cannot afford to pay legal wages. Walmart cant?Yes, America does need low skilled migrants but in carefully calculated numbers, not in an unending stream.

And as Bongopondit points out, what about legal immigration? In the present environment, it is perhaps much easier to be an illegal low skilled immigrant than a legal high skilled one. Is one more important than the other? Sure it is. What makes America a rich country? Its multitudes of scientists. doctors and other high skilled workers(a lot of them are immigrants) or people working in fast food joints? Infact, how can this economy sustain such high wages for low skilled jobs such as driving a bus? Simply because its high tech industry and professionals command a premium in the world market. A welfare state cannot be sustained on the shoulders of few, as we belatedly discovered in India. Many can sustain a few, but never the other way around. One would have thought that America would actually be interested in retaining such talent, instead by limiting the number of H1b to just 65000 a year, and making it so hard to obtain a green card, this country is driving back high skilled workers which are so much needed for the future prosperity of this country. Is it not funny? If you followed the law, got a valid visa. obtained your education, paid your taxes, you might have to go back. If you thought the law was an ass, you stay right here. Maybe law is an ass..

I find it so funny when someone like Vincent Fox comes here and actually demands rights for illegals and open borders. Hello, I would have thought that Fox and other of such kind owe some responsibility for managing their own economies properly and not use the poverty card as weapon to keep demanding concessions. They are putting the onus of their own bad administration on the rich countries. Perhaps, the most obnoxious example of such a phenomenon can be seen in Kerala where migrants to Gulf states have virtually transformed it into a ”moneryorder economy”, allowing the Commies to get away with their myopic and stupid policies. Perhaps, the same energies which they invest in demanding concessions from United States would be better used in building their own economies. I am not even talking about the costs the illegals impose on the US economy.

What about democracy? As you give more and more illegals legal status, they begin to form a solid vote bank for two reasons. Firstly, they always turn out to vote in large numbers, secondly, they are voting tends to governed by one sole issue-usually migration. This is exactly what is happening in United States right now, the increasing Hispanic population is a prize catch for any party. In India, the effect of such mindless pandering to narrow interests groups are already visible in border areas of West Bengal and Assam. Demographics of entire districts have changed, and there is no ways you can get elected until you support the continous flow from Bangladesh. Of course, the Muslim vote bank is driving force behind the secular gang in India. For an excellent analysis of the threat from Bangladesi illegals read Arun Shourie in Indian Express.But I digress.

So, whats the solution? I have already admitted the impossibility of shipping the 11 million illegals back home. It does make sense to give them legal status and allow them to remain in the country. But only if a)border controls are tightened b) there is no beating around the bush(pun intended)regarding their illegal status. They have committed a crime and they should acknowledge it.c) No more amnesty programs in future, a line has to be drawn somewhere.

p.s By no means I am anti-hispanic, I have no sympathy for illegal immigrants from anywhere including India. Heartless I might be, hypocrite I am not.

26 Responses

  1. hey i do agree with this .. we talk abt developed country blah blah bla .. but there is always a loop hole for evrything …

    n i do can relate to wat u say regading illegal immegrants .. they should be barred n kicked out …

    but 1 doesnt knw wen it will end .. al r greedy n selfish .. so no 1 can put this to an end …

    good thought confused !!!..n u do write well …( as raj says …:) )

    take care have a nice weekend

  2. If companies were forced to pay them the same wages as Americans the problem would take care of itself.

  3. Brilliant stuff !! I think I am going to start writing after downing a few martinis from now on ;-)

    I have read/heard some reports that argue how high skilled people contribute more to the economy (more taxes, more productivity, less crime, well educated children). Since I am not a economist, I cannot verify how accurate those statements are. And I guess there is still a bit of bleeding heart left in me – so I will still argue that low-skilled workers are as important to the economy.
    Problem is that most of them are illegal !

  4. ohh if i can have my way…….there wont be any borders…..the creator made the world for everyone to enjoy and man put up boundaries …..and boundaries which have resulted in so much bloodshed n bitterness………

  5. sheeesh i wrote a comment and ur blog dragon gobbled it..grrrrr

  6. michelob rocks! the beer speaks for itself in form of rohits blogs! cheers dude! cheers michelob :)

  7. Its a never ending problem and the countries facing such problem have to keep coming up with new ideas from time to time to deal with it.

  8. HR3347
    protest
    ..(oops i forgot this 1)
    citizenship
    amnesty
    ……. i read it here first about this immigration thing so it caught my eyes when i heard/saw above mentioned things on mtv(yea they were explainin about it, thank goodness).. tho i heard about the LA protest..Thank u for all the good stuffs u said and makin me bit aware about it :) and i agree with mr/ms jackal..there shud be no boundries at all..But . always the big but ..as they say ……..sharhade insano ke liye hai socho tumne or maine kya paya insa hoke( borrowed this line from a song,forgot the name of the movie and pls do the spell check ;) ) anyways ..hope for the best..:)

  9. oops that me is me lol..ok see ya lol

  10. heyyyyyyyy wheres my comment?? :(

  11. @Uttara

    Thank you for kind comments. Ais you said, alot of vested interests are involved..have a great week ahead.

    btw Raj, half the visitors to this blog seem to come only due to you…lol

    @nobody,
    I do agree, however companies cannot be forced to pay more than minimum wages. You cant ask for more than what law demands…
    @Jackal
    Human has put up a lot of things including the walls around your house, just like no one can break into your house, why do you think borders of a country are violable?

    @Sebia,
    Sorry about that, it has never happened before.

    @chaos
    Cheers

    @Rajbir,

    Yo, but I think we need to get more strict, thats it.

    @LC,

    You are wc. I think name of the movie is Border, its nice song but its a song ..:)

    Now, if you keep changing yr id, it will keep sneding yr comments for moderation. Just comment as LC and you comment will be posted right away.

  12. Bongopondit,

    Thank, I wrote after I read you!
    I think Beer does 3 things…

    1. Makes you more politically incorrect.
    2. Allow you to type faster…
    3. If you promise yourself a beer after you finish it and only after you finish it, it usually ensures you do…:)

    On a more serious note, I do identify with what you said. I will never argue that a high skilled worker’s life is more valuable than a low skilled one. Infact, despite all my free market leanings I am all for Nationalized health in US. The point I was trying to make is, how does the country afford to pay 20 bucks an hour for bus drivers (or bus operators-being politically correct since I am not drunk)? I am not arguing that they should not be paid that much money, only respect those who ensure they can be paid such wages.

    Of course, most of them are illegals too. This country does need low skilled numbers but that does not mean open borders. I think NYT did a real nice article about it yesterday, about how even in ths so called dirty jobs native born Americans form the overwhelming majority of workers. So, its not that there are no takers for those jobs.

  13. Yeah but u know there r so many untightened screws in there, it wud take a massive effort to tighten all of them which is not impossible either.

  14. i agree wid JACKAL….

    Panchhii, Nadiya, Pawan ke jhonke ..
    Koi sarhadd na inhe roke …
    Sarhaddien insaano ke liye hain,
    Socho tumne aur maine…
    Kya paaya INSAAN hoke…

  15. Jesus.. i missed IC’s comment… So.. there u go Rohit … VASUDEV KUTUMBAKAM

  16. Yes, yes….We were with friends here and everyone over the weekend, are so very pissed. The GC’s are so very delayed now, inspite of going through the legal route we wait for zillion years and now they want to reward illegals with citizenship. We had another discussion, if the US gvmt is so very concerned, let them invade Mexico and they will willingly be apart of US. The guest worker status is better still…In all I just personally feel that they have raked this issue up sp that the Americans feel that the Governemt wants to fix this problem. It counts as mileage as this is election year. Nothing concrete can be done to plug off immigrants. Did you see the way they get in,the Death train etc. They are maniacs……It’s really frustrating…I guess I liked the way Clinton summarised it lasy night and his perception were more acceptable. Smart post man!

  17. Hi rohit,

    I think I agree with you on most part..except where you say that unskilled low wage earners are lesser imp.

    I think there is a demand and supply for both and that balance has to be maintained.

    However, the protests especially made my blood boil..its like “chori upar se seenazori”. The least they could do is atleast behave like they commited a crime in the first place!

  18. H1b to just 65000 a year, and making it so hard to obtain a green card
    hard… they r making it too hard.. so many stupid conditions then the time its taking ..seems like will take forever to clear 1st stage..then now u cant even get stamping done here …jeez all rules r for us only… n for illegals ts like u wrk for 6 yrs here n get GC without any prob… wow.. huh

    impressive write up:)

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  20. foronce i hav to say “i agree” wth u…lol!!! *grin*

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